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Why this British crossroads was so dangerous

Why this British crossroads was so dangerous

Tom Scott
3 HN recommenders · discussed 2020–2025
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About this video

Tom Scott explains why Ipley Cross in England's New Forest was one of Britain's most dangerous junctions. The angled crossroads lets a car's A-pillar hide approaching traffic and cyclists because there is no relative motion in the driver's view.

Why it appears in the archive

Used as the go-to visual demonstration of A-pillar blind spots and badly designed junctions.

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From the Hacker News discussion

sitharus · 2020-04 · rec

The Tom Scott video has a good animation on this: [VIDEO] Because of the layout of the junction the cars are actually approaching from behind the cyclists.

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zinekeller · 2022-02 · rec

The Wired reporting is based on Bez's article on Singletrack (as stated): [LINK] Tom Scott made a good complementary video about this: [VIDEO] It's already fixed just last month: [LINK] and [LINK]

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DoughnutHole · 2022-08 · rec

Tom Scott has a good video for anyone looking for a visual of this phenomenon: [VIDEO] He shows off a rural (and thankfully now fixed) crossroads in the UK with seemingly great visibility and an unusually high rate of cyclist fatalities - the roads are at such an angle that any reckless driving speed can align with a reasonable cycling speed such that the driver's door pillar can block visibility of a cyclist with right of way right up to the point of impact - and it's compounded by the fact that the car is necessarily approaching from behind the cyclist, so a passing cyclist will be unaware of the danger possibly until they get hit. Of course if drivers in the area actually followed the stop signs no one would get hit - but if you watch the video in a five minute period genuinely only about half of the cars passing through actually come to a complete stop at the stop sign. You need more than signage and quietly hoping that people to do the right thing.

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whymauri · 2021-12 · reference

For a particularly dramatic example of this, Tom Scott made a video about an intersection in the UK that's poorly designed for visibility: [VIDEO]

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matsemann · 2021-12 · reference

Sounds to me like cars shouldn't be allowed to drive where pedestrians travel, if they can't really avoid driving people over. Edit: This Tom Scott video shows how a cyclist can be perfectly occluded by the A-pillar while both are moving [VIDEO]

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kibwen · 2021-12 · reference

> The angles we were converging at meant that he basically disappeared into the background because there was no relative motion. This effect is demonstrated in this video about a particularly dangerous crossing in the UK: [VIDEO]

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antiterra · 2022-03 · reference

The blind spots in the article are from the A pillar, which isn’t addressed by rear view mirrors. The momentum would tend toward this being solved by sensors/computer vision, but maybe chip shortages have curtailed that. Tom Scott presented an interesting example of A pillar blind spots causing problems: [VIDEO]

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notatoad · 2024-01 · reference

this article seems to have some actual pictures: [LINK] the previous configuration as shown on the satellite image looks a lot like the intersection Tom Scott made a video about, where the intersecting road is angled to keep cross-traffic hidden behind a car's a-pillar. [VIDEO]

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